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Bob Simon

Episode # 356

Interview on 02.04.2025

Hosted By: Kevin Daisey

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About Bob Simon

Representing: Justice HQ

In this episode, Kevin Daisey interviews Bob Simon, a trial lawyer and founder of the Simon Law Group. They discuss the importance of empathy in legal practice, the role of community engagement, and the significance of delegation and structure in running a successful law firm. Bob shares insights on leveraging technology for efficiency, the impact of networking events like Law-Di-Gras, and the future of client intake in the legal industry. The conversation emphasizes the need for lawyers to adapt to changing client expectations and the importance of mentorship and community support.

Takeaways:

Empathy is crucial in legal practice, especially during difficult times for clients.
Building a referral-based practice can lead to sustainable success.
Delegation and structure are essential for managing multiple business ventures.
Leveraging technology can streamline operations and improve efficiency.
Community engagement enhances a lawyer’s impact and legacy.
Letting go of control can reduce stress and improve focus on important tasks.
Networking events can create valuable connections and opportunities.
Disruption in the legal industry is necessary for growth and innovation.
Mentorship and collaboration can help lawyers scale their impact.
Adapting to client expectations is vital for modern legal practices.

Episode Transcript:

Bob Simon (00:00)

in order for you to help more people, you have to make more money. That’s beyond we’re seeing it right now. The people that make a lot of money have sway politically. They can literally do whatever they want these days.

Kevin Daisey (00:09)

What’s up everyone. We’re live here at the Managing Partner Podcast Studio. Today I got an awesome friend, a good contact that I made this past year. Bob Simon is on the show. Before I have him introduce himself for those that are under a rock and don’t know who he is. I just want to give a shout out to my friends over at Answering Legal. They do our phone systems here. They help a lot of our law firm clients. Awesome company. Check them out. Bob.

What’s up man?

Bob Simon (00:41)

Everything and nothing at the same time. You know, live in incremental time, you know.

Kevin Daisey (00:46)

I know, I follow you, yeah?

time-space continuum. I just saw Bob down in Miami for NTL and of course I follow him on

Bob Simon (00:51)

That’s right.

Kevin Daisey (00:59)

All the social media platforms stuff that he’s helping his community there, uh, in California, he’s all over the place. Uh, but outside of that, um, him just being a great person and helping his community and things like that. He does a lot of things. And so I really want to focus this episode today on, you know, being a lawyer, running a firm, having success with that in itself is, is a challenge. But then Bob’s been very successful at a lot of other, uh,

Bob Simon (01:21)

you

Kevin Daisey (01:28)

connected businesses and so I wanted to kind of talk about that and how maybe you all can learn from what he’s done and and and do that yourself and how it all fits together so Bob tell us your your quick story if you can If possible

Bob Simon (01:41)

Yeah. So

I’m a trial lawyer. I own an operator firm called the Simon Law Group, otherwise known as the Justice Team. We rebranded for that for many reasons. I have a twin brother, Brad, who’s also a lawyer, and he manages everything that we do. So we do everything 50-50 from the law firm to the Justice Team Network, which is host of shows like Bourbon of Proof, which I do, Justice Team Network, Ladies in Law, some other ones.

Also have Justice HQ, which is a high level community on a digital platform. And I can explain to you what that is. And also Attorney Share, which is a, it’s like a lead generation case management, not case management, lead generation case tracking type thing. mean, it’s managing your leads and then a marketplace to be able to do that. So, you know, the big vision was always how do we get the cases to the best lawyer for that case? Sometimes it’s you, sometimes it’s not.

My firm is almost all referral based. So the lawyers send us their cases to litigator try. And so I want to create a space where it doesn’t matter where you fit in the legal world. If you like to generate cases, if you like to just litigate cases, if you like to just try cases, if you like to just do, you know, community networking, community driven activism, there’s a place for you in all the world too. So I’m very, very passionate about having people do what they love. That’s why I started doing a bourbon talk show, you know.

love drinking bourbon and BSing with my friends. But it to very intentional. We were talking off air about you can’t have this shotgun approach to the things that you’re doing. You have to have infrastructure. You have to have structure. You have to have a dedicated time to do everything. And you have to be able to allocate time. For me, the most important thing is with my family and being intentional about when you could do family trips, when you’re home.

Kevin Daisey (03:09)

I’m

Bob Simon (03:32)

Weekends for the kids, all those things, and you can do these things and it’s much easier to do it when you work for yourself, but you gotta take your chance on something like that.

Kevin Daisey (03:42)

Yeah, no, I love all that. And yeah, what we were talking about before we started recording is, you just like me, I have multiple companies. I have someone that is in charge that runs that, you know, is is taking lead on that on each thing that I got going on instead of trying to do all these things yourself. Like Bob’s running around like crazy already. But put some in charge, delegate, give someone that that responsibility.

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Bob Simon (05:34)

Delegate, trust, but verify, right? It’s like old Reagan phrase, trust, but verify. But I do agree on that. I think tech platforms allow us to be able to track things better. We use task management tools in certain companies so I can have eyes in to see. have one called Asana. I can see what tasks people are working on. We have, in all my companies, I have at least one 30-minute meeting a week just for high-level stuff, what’s going, because these are your companies. It’s your vision. It’s your capital. Usually, you’re the one that’s also.

Kevin Daisey (05:37)

Yeah.

Bob Simon (06:03)

investing and taking the risk. You just make sure that the people you select are executing the vision, that things are happening, that the wheel is moving. Whether it’s a law firm, I try to tell our lawyers is try to move the wheel on every case that you’re working on every other week. Do something right. Same thing with the companies. We have to make sure the thing is moving forward. So at the top, I like to think of myself as like the parent company of everything I have with me, my own virtual assistant, executive assistant, that she keeps me on track, lets me know what’s coming up.

On calendar that day next week, next month, six months from now, eight months from now, it keeps me on task with goals. And I do a once a week meeting with her to make sure that we’re on task and that we’re not missing anything. Yeah. And the rest is, you can have a lot of systems. I think if people have a really good CRM could be anything. If you know where all your data is going and you have your contact list, there’s many things you could do from there. And that’s one thing I wish I knew when I started my firm.

Kevin Daisey (06:46)

you

Bob Simon (06:59)

15 years ago now, Tracking all that stuff. It used to be just spreadsheets and Word docs, right? So now it’s a lot easier. A lot easier.

Kevin Daisey (07:00)

.

Oh man.

Yeah, we use the Asana, Slack, HubSpot, all the tools out there for sure. And leveraging those tools, you know, a of them have a lot of, you know, a lot more than when you start, it’s, you know, might just be, you know, scratching the surface, but.

Bob Simon (07:10)

Yep, Slice

you

Yeah.

And a lot of those tools, by the way, you can get trained virtual assistants or EAs that know those systems, right, that are certified in a lot of those things. And they’re certified in like my case management system, too. Right. So it was very easy just to literally come in and know and understand systems because you have to realize if you were a business owner, you’re not going to be in like the details every single day. It’s impossible. You absolutely cannot. Now you have to have a high level overview of it. And, know, I’m big now and recording all the meetings that we do.

Running it through some systems so I get a high level summary barrel all the meetings people had even though I wasn’t there. So.

Kevin Daisey (07:59)

You got the AI,

the AI note takers and stuff like that. That’ll give you like a summary and action items. And you said you would do this and here’s a checklist. You know, it’s impressive to see what’s out there now to leverage.

Bob Simon (08:13)

I mean…

I mean, I do do a lot of stuff like I think, you I generate a lot of my businesses from social media. People would blow people’s mind. I mean, and I come from a place of. Just education, a little bit of fun, a little bit of just like we’re going to disrupt things.

And then the ones that work very well, like the reels that pop, I’ll usually change them into targeted ads that will then target those buckets that I’m always in front of. we’re talking about attorney share, business to business, lawyers, Just HQ, lawyers, my law firm, lawyers referring us cases, people watching Bourbon Approved, Just Team Network, lawyers. So I can turn any one of those things into digital ads and target and retarget those lawyer audiences. So that’s why

People feel like they see me all the time. Well, it’s intentional and it’s actually not that expensive because if you’re doing targeted ad spend on social media, it’s not that expensive at all. And the ROI to me is huge. So, yeah, that’s you know, I’m enjoying more of the activism stuff lately. People always ask me, when do you run in for office? And I was like, you got to give me a few more years, man. But I really enjoy like we were sifting through people’s properties and Altadena yesterday with a crew with like 30, 40 volunteers. And it was just.

Kevin Daisey (09:23)

So.

Bob Simon (09:23)

It’s just special man. Like when you just give somebody hug that lost everything that sometimes all that they need finding like that old watch while it’s burned, it has a story to it, right? And just, you know, creating general awareness. So I think that’s where the elevation I’d like to go there eventually is to do that most of the time, because I really, really enjoyed it. It’s rewarding. But to do that, you have to have the infrastructure, right? You have to have your generals in place, your leadership and then the accountability and then track it.

Kevin Daisey (09:49)

a hundred percent. mean, I think that’s the ultimate, you know, ultimate goal why we do this and why we go off and, know, to give back, to be able to do those things you want to be with your family, to do things in your community. I mean, that’s, that’s all we were trying to get. Or if you don’t think you’re trying to get there, when you get older, you’re to realize that’s, that’s where you’d rather be putting your time and energy. I think when we were younger, we’re naive.

Bob Simon (10:12)

Yeah, no one’s better. Yeah, I mean,

like, yeah, your legacy is important for your kids and family. So I say like, are people are your kids are the people remember that $5 million case that you did one time? Probably not. But they’re going to remember stuff like helping people in the community. Your kids are going to know did they show up for your your school play? Right. That’s the stuff they’re going to remember. So I think people need to be intentional with what what core memories or what things people will remember you for or what your kids will remember of you.

And don’t worry about those other things outside of your control. Like I always say, I that we watch a lot. I mean, I have three daughters. I mean, watch a lot of Disney cartoons. So like there’s all these songs in my head at all time. But I always always think about the let it go song from from Frozen. Right. You know, first of I have to like to now I’ve seen some very bad stuff in our industry and I just have to see you let it go. Conceal don’t feel right. Just do not put that emotion into it and then let it go with like let go of having to think you have to

control up every single thing. Because you won’t like don’t stress about shit that is not under your purview. There’s always going to be a solution. They’re not unless it’s an absolute emergency and things are literally, you know, going up in smoke, like there’s a solution. There’s time take a step back, let it go. Don’t obsess over this problem, right?

Kevin Daisey (11:31)

And guarantee there’ll be another problem around the corner.

Bob Simon (11:33)

You can do that. I say I can find a

way to work every single hour of every day. Like I could find some problem to solve and do it. But yeah.

Kevin Daisey (11:42)

Yeah, you got to focus. got to, you know, whatever you can impact everything. So, uh, yeah, that’s a good way to think and live and you’d be a lot, uh, well, stressful if you can get that mindset for sure. So yeah, that’s awesome. Um, well, I was also, I, I, you know, saw, uh, Bob done it at Law-Di-Gras Uh, first time I met him in person and great event, by the way, if, you haven’t gone, you better get your ticket. Um, well, I got a I got a little sticker of Bob right here. He’s just.

Bob Simon (12:08)

yeah.

Dude, it’s fine. My wife

has it on. She has her computer over here. It’s on it. I didn’t know they were doing that. It’s pretty funny. No, but it’s like we’re trying to like a lot of girls. Another big thing that we do. And it’s a lot of work, man. I mean, we’d like a thousand attendees, but you got to juggle speakers, lot of egos. Obviously, you to take care of a lot of folks and it’s hard. And I just want to put on a good product. And this year I wanted people to like, I want to create this thing where people can kind of bring their their group there. So it’s like if you have a big

Kevin Daisey (12:12)

It’s just everywhere, you know?

Bob Simon (12:38)

master my one. I just do your thing there and we take care of the stuff around it. And then I’m just working on like I look tonight. I’m going to. Local sporting event and I could tell you the you’ll probably see it as I’ll take a picture with one of the artists that I’m trying to get. He’ll be with me. I’m trying to get for a lot of grow, so we’ll see if I can like. Will this into existence? Yeah.

Kevin Daisey (12:54)

Thanks

I’ll be checking my Instagram later to see what’s

up. Now you guys just did such a good job with that event. And again, for attorneys listening, obviously. Awesome event to go to, to connect, to learn, also to have fun and not be so uptight. And it’s just a really great platform.

Bob Simon (13:18)

Yeah, I mean,

why we started to do Law-Di-Gras is. I was always so frustrated, even one leadership of every single bar like I’m the chair of ethics for the local L.A. one like all these things, and we were never these large bar orcs were never given the opportunity to speak and let people do their thing. It was always just the same people talking about the same stuff. So what if we can create a world where it’s like a choose your own adventure? You get in there, you can present, you can do your thing. We’ll make it fun. We’ll make it different.

and make it more about networking. like the reason why I try to pick a location where everybody’s in the same location all the time and you can’t go off site is we want people to be in the room with each other constantly. And I’ve had so many people tell me about the business deal that they met. Somebody met their spouse there at Lottie Brown, right? Like this is the stuff that I like to hear and see. And this is we just want to be totally disruptive. I mean, like with the Just HQ platform, it’s like a bigger scale of it is where any lawyer can go in there, create their own event, create their own small group discussion.

They can work with vendors can do it to vendors can go and create all of these things too and have it all under one place. There’s a place where they can just reserve office space like a it’s like Airbnb field where people other lawyers can list their office space. They could just go show up. People can charge. I never charge for people to work for my office spaces because I like to be in the mix with other folks. But like I wanted to create this world where there was no barrier for any good legal professional vendor staff lawyer to do whatever they want.

We have slack communities in there with as well. But I mean, there’s nothing stopping somebody to be like, you know what? I want to do a small group discussion on effective digital marketing and I’m going to run a monthly session. Go ahead, set it up right. See who shows up. See if a vendor wants to sponsor it. Maybe here and there. Now you have all of this that people are paying thousands of dollars a month for masterminds or access. Now you have it nationally for like, I think it’s like 400 bucks a month to get all. But it makes most like whenever these vendors, I’m like, they’re like, would I get all of us like

Kevin Daisey (15:11)

Yeah, I was just checking it out actually.

Bob Simon (15:16)

Yeah, dude, like we want everyone because since it’s built on a digital like it’s a tech platform, it’s so much easier to scale. If the people that are driving it, these are like the really good folks that are just empowering themselves to set their own thing up. You want to do a happy hour, do it, promote it. We’ll promote it for you. Push it out to all the members and try to get excitement for it. Maybe vendors will want to sponsor it. But this is how you really like disrupt everything. If you give the tools to people that were always told no to. Right, here you go.

right, and see what happens.

Kevin Daisey (15:46)

Yeah.

No, frigging awesome. mean, and, and yeah, about a lot of girl, like, you know, wasn’t, you kind of got off ticket last minute came there as a, just an attendee and, didn’t know much about it. Didn’t know you yet really. but on the app was like, I’m going to make a managing partners podcast. How many guests do I have here that were on my show? And then like set up a happy hour on site. It was awesome. Everybody showed up and we got to hang out and connect and it was.

It was such a cool experience. then everyone’s like, Hey, did you go around San Diego and like check out? No, I never left the property, airport to the property back to the airport. And I had a blast. You know, I was there for four or five days. So was, it was, was fricking awesome.

Bob Simon (16:28)

Yeah.

I think I signed your high west bottle that we had there for a lot of years.

Kevin Daisey (16:38)

I thought I’ll verb

it. You signed two because I came out the next night and got another one. And neither one of them came home with me because I…

Bob Simon (16:44)

Those are their own.

no, I try to get the smaller ones that people could like just bring up. But I ended up drinking the whole thing because it was there only like half the regular bottle size so it’s you could take down the whole thing. No problem. Well. Yes, they did.

Kevin Daisey (16:55)

They fit in your back pocket really nicely. Um,

of course I was sharing them. I’d go find like some attorney friends or whatever and just be like, here you go. So, uh, yeah, they didn’t last very long, but really cool. I liked that a lot. So, um, yeah. So, so you’re doing all these things. Um, you’re making impacts in all kinds of places and they’re all connected and they’re, I think that’s the biggest thing. Like you’re not off as easy as an entrepreneur to get distracted, to want to, uh, try it.

Bob Simon (17:05)

Yeah.

Kevin Daisey (17:25)

other things outside of what, what, you know, what your real focus is. And I think that can, in some cases be okay, like real estate or some things like that, that I do, but it can also be a big distraction and it can derail kind of the progress that you’ve made with your main business. So.

Bob Simon (17:42)

Yeah,

and I mean, like we own real estate to some of our office buildings we own, right? My brother and I, you real property. But I think it’s important for people that if you start to have success, that you start to understand or hire what we call home offices, people that can talk to you about tax strategy, stuff you could do with, you know, terrible trust, things you could do with property that will be very helpful for people, but also be helpful for you to protect and grow. Right. Because.

you in order for you to help more people, you have to make more money. That’s beyond we’re seeing it right now. The people that make a lot of money have sway politically. They can literally do whatever they want these days.

So you have that is a tool to be able to have access to help more people on scale. You should be looking into those types of things. Get into mentorship groups. I tell people I don’t care if it’s a tech chain to start but get in the room with people that you want to be like them or there and then and then let that grow. So yeah, lot of people.

Kevin Daisey (18:37)

100 % man.

yeah, I’ve always told you like that. I’ve talked to some like young lawyers or like not young lawyers, but solo lawyers and, yeah, I don’t really want to grow or, know, just, I’m all about helping people. And, and I had to like, it was like a civil rights lawyer out of Florida. One time it was like, she was nicest. can be, like, I just want to help people. I don’t want to grow. I don’t want to do marketing. I don’t want to do all this stuff. And, and, I forgot why we were talking to her, but, and I said, you know,

Bob Simon (18:46)

Bye!

Kevin Daisey (19:08)

That’s great. You want to help people. You’re you’re awesome. What you do, you’ve helped a lot of people. What if you could impact more people? Like you need to get in front of more people, like more people need your help. And I could tell that, you know, there’s a click moment in her mind where she was like, I didn’t think about it.

Bob Simon (19:26)

And here’s where data step further is you can help all those people that are looking for access to justice, but you can also help all those other lawyers that don’t know how to source those cases. And now you’re there working under your firm or independently. We do a lot of fee sharing a co counseling. That’s kind of mantra of attorney share. So now you’re helping a lot of people on scale and you’re helping those other lawyers get access to the cases they never otherwise would be able to. And you’re doing it in a partnership fashion. Right. And that’s how I think you really disrupt and change things because you have

You have people doing what they love to do and easily getting in front of those consumers, those clients that they want to serve. And I think that’s the evolution. We’re going to see this on a massive scale, 2025 and 26 with, you you’re seeing it with with, you know, you’re you’re in the agency marketing world, right? You’re you see, right? You see it. You see all that. It’s going to get even more granular and it’s. Yeah, it’s going to be very interesting because, know, we’re going to see intake change. We just will.

Kevin Daisey (20:11)

Yeah.

man,

I just got off a call, with a girl that does intake and intake consulting for law firms and just showing me some crazy stuff with AI and, and I tell lawyers all the time, like, listen, people aren’t comparing your law firm to the last law firm they hired for their accident. It’s probably their first experience, hopefully they’re compared to Uber, Domino’s, instant gratification information.

They want to be hand-held to the process. so yeah, things are changing so rapidly with how you handle your clients intake experience. There’s a lot more you need to be looking at these days and things are moving fast. So.

Bob Simon (20:49)

You

Yeah.

Bob Simon (21:02)

Very fast. So yeah, I the world of these large call centers are going to be.

Kevin Daisey (21:10)

Yeah, so there’s a lot of change coming to us for sure. We see it across the board. And more leads is not always the problem with a law firm. It’s usually not the problem. It’s how they handle those leads and talk to those people and the language they use. And, you know, it’s the worst day of that person’s life potentially when they’re calling and how you’re to handle that. And then make them an advocate on the other side. Referrals, reviews.

Bob Simon (21:15)

care.

And that’s the thing is, you know, we have so many people out reaching out to us that are affected by the fires here locally. And I tell, you know, I talked to lot of people myself when they talk to like, you know, pick up the phone in our offices that you have to leave with empathy, like people lost everything. Ask how you doing? How can we help?

And that’s it right you can yeah we can figure out there you know help them read their insurance policies for free and do all that analysis but just check on them and see how they’re doing because like we have housing resources you know access to goods or whatever that they need that that’s maybe what they’re looking for. But yeah exactly this is what you need to train your people on I think that’s going to be the extension of your firm obviously but this is where you need to spend a lot of your training. The first point of contact. Well.

Kevin Daisey (22:22)

100%. agree more.

Bob, I wanted to kind of end with the Bourbon of Proof podcast and a couple of questions. One, what is, you know, I guess, are some of the things like you’re coming up with the podcast? You guys talk about some awesome topics and things like that, but so you just said Jefferson Fisher on, but what do you expect if they want to tune into Bourbon of Proof this year? And I also want to know what your favorite bourbon is.

Bob Simon (22:37)

Yeah.

Oh wow. Well, I mean, look man, it was always just let’s have a few drinks with friends and explore. Like who they are, learn their story. You know, we got some fantastic guests on. We’re actually trying to get a. People want us to travel into our location now for a lot of folks. I think we’re going to go to DC here in a couple of months. There’s a lot of folks up on the Hill that I know that I think would be very, very fantastic guests. I mean, if you actually writing the law, would be great for proven or proof. You know, give him a few drinks and ask some.

Hard questions. Like I asked the lawyer that represented OJ after a couple shots. We were doing tequila that episode because he likes tequila. After a couple, I just had him drink the last one I say. So did OJ do it? And man, it was the best episode we ever did. I mean, he went into detail on everything and it was great. Favorite bourbon. So I’m a huge whistlepig boss hog. That’s the one their annual release. That’s my A1. I will drink that all day every day. Yesterday I was drinking.

Well, or full proof, I’m a big weller guy, but full proof is my favorite of that line. So that’s what I was having yesterday. I like high proof bourbons that don’t think too much. Friend of mine sent me an E. Taylor, the green label one. It’s like 66 % which I do love and it does not sting because you could have like one of those and just feel good.

Yeah, but some of them you drink it, you can feel it. I mean, it’s like terrible. It’s like you can’t even finish it. Now I’m more of a rye guy and then higher proof bourbons usually that are aged in some sort of sweeter cask. Like you go to Angel’s Envy Rye, they do it and tastes like friggin maple syrup. That’s 50 % alcohol. Everybody says that they don’t like whiskey or bourbon. Try this.

Hahaha

No keep us stocked.

always is. It was funny like yesterday at the volunteer event, a lawyer showed up and he hand me a bottle of bourbon. It was a boo rye from high west and he’s like, I’m waiting to give this to you. was like, dude, this is awesome. Thank you. know, yeah, just I mean, it’s it’s a connective tissue for me, right? I mean, this is I’m a storyteller at core and I like telling stories about bourbon, but it reminds me a trigger pattern of that person that I shared it with who gave me the bottle.

Kevin Daisey (25:03)

I’m right there with you but yeah remember that there was that law firm there in California they had a table at at Laudegraal and they had I won their bottle of bourbon and it was like a really sweet one it was made with like I let you try it remember that it was it was not my style it was like chai yeah

Bob Simon (25:30)

no, it was the chai. Yeah, interesting. So you know what I did with that one is I ended up getting a bottle that was Singleton Triber did that one for San Diego. I love those guys. He ended up send me a bottle that and I had a this. I got a red around Christmas so I did a. It was a chai. It was like a chai whiskey and I mixed that with like this gingerbread. Like liqueur.

Kevin Daisey (25:56)

I couldn’t sit there and eat it. But it was good. But I tried it out. It was good. But yeah, it’s like a Christmas cookie or something there that you made. So I’ll try anything, you know, once.

Bob Simon (26:09)

It’s way tried twice is the you know I’m at the point now if I don’t even like if I take a sip of whiskey now like it has poured out like I’m not even gonna like waste my time calories right

Kevin Daisey (26:20)

Okay. like that

you’re in that spot. So, uh, Bob, I appreciate you coming to share. Um, you know, you’re, you’re up to so many things. So anyone listening, just go connect with Bob, follow him on Instagram, LinkedIn. Uh, he’s also super approachable. He’s been super nice to me and, uh, I was taking time out of his day to join me on the show. So I appreciate it, but, um, yeah, connect with Bob, follow him, check out Lordy girl. And, um, I’m sure, uh, if you got any questions.

He’s happy to get it.

Bob Simon (26:50)

Yeah, just go to at planet fun Bob planet fun Bob and Instagram and I will likely hit you back pretty quickly. But no, I truly believe that why would you not help everybody unselfishly, right? I mean, the more folks you help the more that they may help you eventually, but the more they’re helping other people, which is important and then they remember that and you know, I I never like those lawyers or those humans that just try to hoard all the knowledge and information because they think it’s some sort of secret sauce they can never give away man. Screw that.

Kevin Daisey (27:21)

Yeah, dude, I appreciate it.

Bob Simon (27:22)

feeling. yeah man thanks for having me on appreciate you.

Kevin Daisey (27:25)

Then I’m sure everyone go check Bob out. Go follow him. Have a great day. Enjoy running your law firm and help people out. Don’t worry about the problems and a lot of great tips here from Bob today. So we’ll see you soon on the next episode.

About The Host: Kevin Daisey

Founder / Account Executive

Kevin Daisey is both the co-founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Array Digital, with a legacy in the digital marketplace spanning over two decades. Kevin’s extensive experience in website design and digital marketing makes him a valuable strategic partner for law firms. He doesn’t just create digital presences; he develops online growth strategies that help law firms establish and lead in their respective fields.

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